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OMG, this, so much this.

Kamala versus Daenerys.

I have been mocked for my name, it's been laughed at, othered, and embarrassed. I have been told "that's not American, is it?" It's been made clear to me that "real Americans" have "American names."

People never ever say it correctly, even though the last name at least is pronounced almost exactly at it's written.

Years ago, I almost donated $5 to a Republican, can't even remember who. The guy on the name started with "Is this..." and he said my name perfectly. It had never happened before, and it has never happened since, that someone will say it correctly, or without the "I'm butchering this" or "Wow, that's long!"

So yeah.

My name has always been a sore point for me. I still have a hard time forgiving my parents. Yes, I know that now people are more ok with weird ass names, though not completely, but when I was a child? It was a constant source of mockery and set me apart from kids my age, when all I'd ever wanted was to be ignored, one of the crowd.

But then again. My mother was fan of an Egyptian singer, called Oum Kalthoum, where Oum means mother. One day she was talking about how much she loved that singer and said to me "I should have named you Oum Kalthoum." She was completely serious. So I guess Leila was, in fact, my best case scenario.

Date: 20 Oct 2020 22:09 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] camelsamba
People mocked you for "Leila"? I never would have expected that! Or did they mock you for your last name and mispronounce Leila? (I used to be guilty of mispronouncing Leila.) My last name was Perkowski so I get where you're coming from.

Date: 23 Oct 2020 03:59 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] camelsamba
I'm so sorry you had to endure all that. Why are kids so mean to each other??

One weird error for Perkowski was inserting a T - like Petrowski. "There is no T in that name, people!" Maybe their eyes were confused because of my first name? I probably experienced teasing, but I don't remember the details so it either wasn't sustained or wasn't very mean. Certainly not like you experienced. It was during an era when there were lots of "dumb Polack" jokes but I was confident enough in my braininess that I didn't mind those.

Date: 23 Oct 2020 03:53 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] camelsamba
I can imagine being steamed at that doctor's office!

Those errors are so weird. I can understand someone using "Lila" because that was the error I made. But Lulu? Bizarre.

PE was a graduation requirement at Rice; it was graded but didn't count towards GPA. My first semester, our TA was someone from my (dorm-equivalent) who should have known that I don't go by the name Pat. Grade was purely by attendance and I never missed class, but I got a B - I finally decided she must have been calling "Pat" instead of "Tricia" and I didn't respond.

Date: 20 Oct 2020 22:42 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] camelsamba
Okay, I read the article after my initial comment. I appreciate the distinction made between mispronunciation and DISpronunciation. I learned from a podcast not long ago that Parvati (such as in Harry Potter series) has different emphasis than the way I'd always pronounced it in my head, so now I do it properly (it's different from the movies and audiobooks). But it is true that there are phonetic distinctions that can be hard for English speakers to hear and say. I work really hard to correctly pronounce the names of Indian parkrun friends, but there's one distinction that I honestly cannot hear or produce - the "th" in Kranthi, which I'm told is sort of between "t" and how I say "th." But I would never intentionally say it as something like "cranky" or "grantham" [possible anglicization]!

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