At some point...
7 Oct 2020 09:42At some point, the discussion is going to have to happen in the US. There are small inklings of it in Canada right now, in Toronto to be precise, but of course Premier Ford (who is a jerk) is not going to act, and will leave it until it's too late.
As will US leadership.
But the dialog needs to be started now, so people have the time to prepare.
We need to cancel Thanksgiving.
Period.
There is no way, in the US of now, or 7 weeks from now, to do Thanksgiving safely. If we had easy access, cheap, rapid tests, maybe. Ideally ones without approximately 40% of false negatives (who puts out a test with that kind of sensitivity?), but if people were responsible, that might work anyhow (For example: test, isolate, test again, Thanksgiving). But that isn't going to happen, we aren't going to have rapid testing, and without any sort of leadership, we are going to end up with multiple family and friend superspreader events.
This needs to be addressed. Trump won't, of course, but governors, anyone with influence needs to.
I think many school are/were planning on sending kids home for Thanksgiving and not having them back, which means either they come with their germs and spread them, but at least don't go back to campus to spread them there, or they come home without germs and probably get infected by a friend or relative at Thanksgiving. Or some such.
I think Tday can work for some families, for some small gatherings. We may be planning on having my aunt from Canada down. She's in BC and I think she'd be staying between me and my sister, through Christmas, scary thought. I feel relatively comfortable having my sister, BIL, and my mom over. We're the weak link of that chain, seeing as we a) living in an area with more Covid-19 and b) have two kids with more contacts in the community (rowing and rowing and coaching) than my relatively isolated at this point sister does. I'm not sure I feel comfortable having Anne-Chloe and dipshit boyfriend over: they have a roommate, and AC works in a hospital. Dunno what we're going to do there. My MIL, I'd be fine with except that she and my SIL have equivalent risks. My SIL is terrified of Covid, so she's supposedly trying to stay isolated, but she's also pretty stupid when it comes to figuring stuff out and about trusting other people (and she does go out) so I'm not convinced she's a reliable person to admit to a bubble. So there it is all laid out and if I want to really minimize risk, I should cancel everyone and not do anything. One step above is aunt, sister, BIL, and mom. Etc.
But, really, this dialog needs to start now. Not three days before Thanksgiving with a "it would be best if families stayed home..."
As will US leadership.
But the dialog needs to be started now, so people have the time to prepare.
We need to cancel Thanksgiving.
Period.
There is no way, in the US of now, or 7 weeks from now, to do Thanksgiving safely. If we had easy access, cheap, rapid tests, maybe. Ideally ones without approximately 40% of false negatives (who puts out a test with that kind of sensitivity?), but if people were responsible, that might work anyhow (For example: test, isolate, test again, Thanksgiving). But that isn't going to happen, we aren't going to have rapid testing, and without any sort of leadership, we are going to end up with multiple family and friend superspreader events.
This needs to be addressed. Trump won't, of course, but governors, anyone with influence needs to.
I think many school are/were planning on sending kids home for Thanksgiving and not having them back, which means either they come with their germs and spread them, but at least don't go back to campus to spread them there, or they come home without germs and probably get infected by a friend or relative at Thanksgiving. Or some such.
I think Tday can work for some families, for some small gatherings. We may be planning on having my aunt from Canada down. She's in BC and I think she'd be staying between me and my sister, through Christmas, scary thought. I feel relatively comfortable having my sister, BIL, and my mom over. We're the weak link of that chain, seeing as we a) living in an area with more Covid-19 and b) have two kids with more contacts in the community (rowing and rowing and coaching) than my relatively isolated at this point sister does. I'm not sure I feel comfortable having Anne-Chloe and dipshit boyfriend over: they have a roommate, and AC works in a hospital. Dunno what we're going to do there. My MIL, I'd be fine with except that she and my SIL have equivalent risks. My SIL is terrified of Covid, so she's supposedly trying to stay isolated, but she's also pretty stupid when it comes to figuring stuff out and about trusting other people (and she does go out) so I'm not convinced she's a reliable person to admit to a bubble. So there it is all laid out and if I want to really minimize risk, I should cancel everyone and not do anything. One step above is aunt, sister, BIL, and mom. Etc.
But, really, this dialog needs to start now. Not three days before Thanksgiving with a "it would be best if families stayed home..."